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Monday, March 10, 2008
DOE Complex transformation: 20-30% fewer workers
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17 comments:
Anonymous
said...
As noted, this is not news. However, it does not mean that LLNL will be shrinking an additional 20-30%. It does however explain a substantial portion of the rational behind a push for more "Work for Others".
Also keep in mind that a change in administration could quickly lead to a change in philosophy/policy.
It looks like that manpower projection of 4,500 people at LLNL wasn't far from being right on the money. I suspect the final number will even be lower before it's all over. I'd say more like 3,500, and as the need to continually cut the budget is declared the LLNL map should look more like Y-12.
I wouldn't worry about it. Bush is done. Bodman is a failure. D'Agostino is passing gas in public waiting to be fired.
These plans are DOA.
O'bama will appoint others (hopefully not former military) and they will do something else.
This plan has no constituency, least of all in the complex. The puppets Miller and Anastasio mouth their support as their strings are pulled, but they to are short timers.
Its about time you brains woke up, had you read contract 44, weapons complex plan, and the LLNL RFP several months ago you might have voted UPTE in to save your jobs! remember 500 of you FTEs need to go by april may the latest.
It's to late now and I don't think SPSE or UPTE could have done a darn thing about this transition. That decision was made way above their level and the employees have NO say, period. This transition is what they people in DC wanted and I am sure ten years from now you'll all be informed. I don't think it was the correct decision but it's done. The country will pay in decades to come and may in fact never be the same again.
The 20-30% reduction in staffing that NNSA has been throwing out is overly optimistic, just like their highly optimistic plans for Congressional support of RRW and a new Complex Transformation infrastructure.
The final staffing numbers are going to be much worse. Try a 40% reduction in lab staffing and substitute a figure of 5 years to get there instead of a decade. The NNSA labs are now primed for a very rapid reduction in jobs.
LLNL's demise was sealed with the creation of NNSA - an agency with a single purpose, and a purpose that could only diminish in scale with time. Keeping the lab as a multi-program national science lab under DOE and allowing it to work on national security and nuclear weapons could have saved it, but spinning it off to the shrinking domain of NNSA clearly leads us in one work/funding starved direction...
"The NNSA labs are now primed for a very rapid reduction in jobs."
SPSE should legally find a way to force LLNS to give all new employees a disclosure statement revealing their plans to lay off 20-30% of the workforce. This statement should be attached to any offer letter LLNS sends out.
The reduction isn't for all jobs. Every company in the country would have to be required to provide new employees with similar or worse prediction statements (remember GM, dot.coms, etc.). GM closed plants, laid of 10's of thousands of employees, but is still doing hiring in appropriate areas.
You might want to compare US gas prices with prices in other major world markets. You might begin to think that we're just "catching up."
Catching up to what? A repressed society of eat, sleep and work buffoons with no funds to have fun. No life. Just a slave to your employer to where all you can afford to do and or even look forward to doing is coming to work so that you can socialize, simply because on the weekends you have no money to put in your tank to go see anyone or do anything? Yeah, that's living the good life isn't it. No wonder these people have time to start wars. If you call that catching up then I don't want any part of it.
The most unfortunate thing about this is, we did it to ourselves by allowing NAFTA and becoming part of the global economy. To heck with that crap. I say its time to become totally independent of the world and tell them to go to hell.
I doubt most of Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan, etc. would agree with the dismal picture you paint.
On the flip side are the immigrants that come to the US from the countries you do refer to, that work two, three or more jobs to survive here. I haven’t heard them complaining about not having “a life.” In fact just the opposite. Are they wrong, or does your logic need some review? Could it be that this is still the best country in the world, despite its flaws?
My logic requires no review at all and I for one have no intention of working two to three jobs to have a car, home and food on the table. If that's what it takes to "LIVE" then screw it. You're better off dead than to be a slave to corporate America.
As far as I'm concerned forty hours a week is more than enough time donated to the cause, that cause being earning a wage which will only get you by payday to pay day. If we'd take the time to think about our time here on earth we’d actually discover how little time we have for fun or what I’d call a decent life.
We spend eight hours a day on the job and for many of us we spend another four hours a day in commute traffic. That's twelve hours a day out of our life gone, with no real satisfaction to be had. After twelve grueling hours at work and on the road we get home at ~ 5:00 PM and have exactly four hours to get dinner ready, eat, exercise, shower, and then it's time to hit the sack. There goes sixteen hours out of the twenty-four hours a day. This leaves us eight hours of which seven hours are spent sleeping if you're lucky. Then it's up at 4:00 AM to prepare for another grueling twelve hours of the “so called life” . So, where exactly is there a life here? None of what I just described except for eating and sleep do I consider a life, and even those events are just necessities. This regimented form of life goes on for forty years until someday you realize that you've really only lived LIFE for ten of these forty years and that wasn't much of one. So, out of forty years we've spend 3/4 of that time devoted to slave labor governed by corrupt politicians, cooperate America’s greedy and an economy that sets the cost of living so high that your governed wages will never allow you to have a "life of leisure or happiness" at all, unless of course your job is your happiness. I surely hope that's not the case.
Regardless I sure as heck am not going to work a double shift or two jobs to have the bare necessities. That being the case is there any doubt why people go postal. I have no doubt at all and expect to see more of it as we suffer through this recession / depression for the next 13-17 years.
Here's where another song comes to mind. "Take This Job and Shove It". The bottom line is the scenario I described above is what 99.9 % of Americans do. This IS NOT LIFE at all. It's BS !
You forgot. You have two days to do your chores and all the honey do's. Now that's life. Then there's vacation at Disneyland with a million other out of control rug rats. No headaches here. Enjoy.
March 16, 2008 9:26 PM Please - don't wait! Do it now. Shove this job! It'll save a job for one of the more dedicated, producing employees. I'm sure you and your lame attitude won't be missed.
17 comments:
As noted, this is not news. However, it does not mean that LLNL will be shrinking an additional 20-30%. It does however explain a substantial portion of the rational behind a push for more "Work for Others".
Also keep in mind that a change in administration could quickly lead to a change in philosophy/policy.
"smaller, safer, more secure and less expensive"
Well, 2 out of 4 isn't bad for government work, right?
Firing the people will make it smaller and less expensive. Treating workers like crap isn't going to make anything safer or more secure though.
It looks like that manpower projection of 4,500 people at LLNL wasn't far from being right on the money. I suspect the final number will even be lower before it's all over. I'd say more like 3,500, and as the need to continually cut the budget is declared the LLNL map should look more like Y-12.
"It looks like that manpower projection of 4,500 people at LLNL wasn't far from being right on the money."
The 20-30% reduction is projected for the entire nuclear weapons complex, not individual labs
$4,500 would be closer to 40% anyway.
I wouldn't worry about it. Bush is done. Bodman is a failure. D'Agostino is passing gas in public waiting to be fired.
These plans are DOA.
O'bama will appoint others (hopefully not former military) and they will do something else.
This plan has no constituency, least of all in the complex. The puppets Miller and Anastasio mouth their support as their strings are pulled, but they to are short timers.
Its about time you brains woke up, had you read contract 44, weapons complex plan, and the LLNL RFP several months ago you might have voted UPTE in to save your jobs! remember 500 of you FTEs need to go by april may the latest.
March 11, 2008 9:29 PM
It's to late now and I don't think SPSE or UPTE could have done a darn thing about this transition. That decision was made way above their level and the employees have NO say, period. This transition is what they people in DC wanted and I am sure ten years from now you'll all be informed. I don't think it was the correct decision but it's done. The country will pay in decades to come and may in fact never be the same again.
The 20-30% reduction in staffing that NNSA has been throwing out is overly optimistic, just like their highly optimistic plans for Congressional support of RRW and a new Complex Transformation infrastructure.
The final staffing numbers are going to be much worse. Try a 40% reduction in lab staffing and substitute a figure of 5 years to get there instead of a decade. The NNSA labs are now primed for a very rapid reduction in jobs.
LLNL's demise was sealed with the creation of NNSA - an agency with a single purpose, and a purpose that could only diminish in scale with time. Keeping the lab as a multi-program national science lab under DOE and allowing it to work on national security and nuclear weapons could have saved it, but spinning it off to the shrinking domain of NNSA clearly leads us in one work/funding starved direction...
"The NNSA labs are now primed for a very rapid reduction in jobs."
SPSE should legally find a way to force LLNS to give all new employees a disclosure statement revealing their plans to lay off 20-30% of the workforce. This statement should be attached to any offer letter LLNS sends out.
The reduction isn't for all jobs. Every company in the country would have to be required to provide new employees with similar or worse prediction statements (remember GM, dot.coms, etc.). GM closed plants, laid of 10's of thousands of employees, but is still doing hiring in appropriate areas.
You might want to compare US gas prices with prices in other major world markets. You might begin to think that we're just "catching up."
March 16, 2008 12:23 PM
Catching up to what? A repressed society of eat, sleep and work buffoons with no funds to have fun. No life. Just a slave to your employer to where all you can afford to do and or even look forward to doing is coming to work so that you can socialize, simply because on the weekends you have no money to put in your tank to go see anyone or do anything? Yeah, that's living the good life isn't it. No wonder these people have time to start wars. If you call that catching up then I don't want any part of it.
The most unfortunate thing about this is, we did it to ourselves by allowing NAFTA and becoming part of the global economy. To heck with that crap. I say its time to become totally independent of the world and tell them to go to hell.
March 16, 2008 12:23 PM
I doubt most of Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan, etc. would agree with the dismal picture you paint.
On the flip side are the immigrants that come to the US from the countries you do refer to, that work two, three or more jobs to survive here. I haven’t heard them complaining about not having “a life.” In fact just the opposite. Are they wrong, or does your logic need some review? Could it be that this is still the best country in the world, despite its flaws?
Issues or whining?
March 16, 2008 9:26 PM
My logic requires no review at all and I for one have no intention of working two to three jobs to have a car, home and food on the table. If that's what it takes to "LIVE" then screw it. You're better off dead than to be a slave to corporate America.
As far as I'm concerned forty hours a week is more than enough time donated to the cause, that cause being earning a wage which will only get you by payday to pay day. If we'd take the time to think about our time here on earth we’d actually discover how little time we have for fun or what I’d call a decent life.
We spend eight hours a day on the job and for many of us we spend another four hours a day in commute traffic. That's twelve hours a day out of our life gone, with no real satisfaction to be had. After twelve grueling hours at work and on the road we get home at ~ 5:00 PM and have exactly four hours to get dinner ready, eat, exercise, shower, and then it's time to hit the sack. There goes sixteen hours out of the twenty-four hours a day. This leaves us eight hours of which seven hours are spent sleeping if you're lucky. Then it's up at 4:00 AM to prepare for another grueling twelve hours of the “so called life” . So, where exactly is there a life here? None of what I just described except for eating and sleep do I consider a life, and even those events are just necessities. This regimented form of life goes on for forty years until someday you realize that you've really only lived LIFE for ten of these forty years and that wasn't much of one. So, out of forty years we've spend 3/4 of that time devoted to slave labor governed by corrupt politicians, cooperate America’s greedy and an economy that sets the cost of living so high that your governed wages will never allow you to have a "life of leisure or happiness" at all, unless of course your job is your happiness. I surely hope that's not the case.
Regardless I sure as heck am not going to work a double shift or two jobs to have the bare necessities. That being the case is there any doubt why people go postal. I have no doubt at all and expect to see more of it as we suffer through this recession / depression for the next 13-17 years.
Here's where another song comes to mind. "Take This Job and Shove It". The bottom line is the scenario I described above is what 99.9 % of Americans do. This IS NOT LIFE at all. It's BS !
March 17, 2008 5:08 PM
You forgot. You have two days to do your chores and all the honey do's. Now that's life. Then there's vacation at Disneyland with a million other out of control rug rats. No headaches here. Enjoy.
March 16, 2008 9:26 PM
Please - don't wait! Do it now. Shove this job! It'll save a job for one of the more dedicated, producing employees. I'm sure you and your lame attitude won't be missed.
March 18, 2008 9:16 PM
The truth hurts doesn't it. I really hated to bring reality to the surface but facts are facts. Enjoy you regimented NO life society of worker bees.
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